ajd123 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Does anyone have a good solution for a temp & humidity sensor that integrates into Control4 and can be used outdoors (weather resistant) or in a freezer (can handle cold temperatures). Unfortunately my Shelly H&T Gen 3's are not rated for temperatures below freezing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 This may work for you https://www.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-indoor-outdoor-thermo-hygrometer Note you need one of their hubs for communication. Driver here https://chowmain.software/drivers/control4-switchbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Shelly Uni with a temp probe. Andrew luecke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegration Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Why not a Control4 Z2C with a probe? I’ve got these all over the place and work great. The probe wire can be bought at c4 too. native zigbee and works fantastic in all cases we’ve put them in. I use a single z2c in my garage to detect, garage temperature, freezer temp and if the freezer door had been left open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 6 hours ago, Cinegration said: Why not a Control4 Z2C with a probe? I’ve got these all over the place and work great. The probe wire can be bought at c4 too. native zigbee and works fantastic in all cases we’ve put them in. I use a single z2c in my garage to detect, garage temperature, freezer temp and if the freezer door had been left open. So the Z2C would sit outside the freezer, than you have a wire running from the Z2C into the freezer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 21 hours ago, alanchow said: This may work for you https://www.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-indoor-outdoor-thermo-hygrometer Note you need one of their hubs for communication. Driver here https://chowmain.software/drivers/control4-switchbot Thanks I will look into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 On 9/27/2024 at 5:04 PM, ajd123 said: So the Z2C would sit outside the freezer, than you have a wire running from the Z2C into the freezer? @Cinegration how do you get the probe/wire into the freezer? Do you just run between the chest and lid and the gasket still seals? Or drill a hole through the wall of the freezer and hope for the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXTR Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 If you’ve got a half decent Zigbee mesh I’d suggest Sinope moisture sensors which have temperature sensors built in, just put it in the freezer, I believe they can measure down to -18C The battery life is roughly 4-6x that of a Z2C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 53 minutes ago, BXTR said: If you’ve got a half decent Zigbee mesh I’d suggest Sinope moisture sensors which have temperature sensors built in, just put it in the freezer, I believe they can measure down to -18C The battery life is roughly 4-6x that of a Z2C Can you provide a link to the Sinope product you are suggesting? Is this the product you are suggesting? https://www.sinopetech.com/en/products/sedna-water-leak-detector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegration Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 On 9/28/2024 at 5:38 PM, Dueport said: @Cinegration how do you get the probe/wire into the freezer? Do you just run between the chest and lid and the gasket still seals? Or drill a hole through the wall of the freezer and hope for the best? The wire is very small and we were able to get it through the seal in the corner. This also allowed us to get a door contact on the door itself and the Garage Temperature all from one unit :). We mounted the Z2C on the outside of the unit... FYI, no matter what you do, use a battery operated device... because if you lose power to your freezer you also lose power to your sensor. Learned that the hard way lol Dueport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted Monday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:19 PM 1 hour ago, Cinegration said: use a battery operated device... because if you lose power to your freezer you also lose power to your sensor Or program off of loss of communication if the device allows it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXTR Posted Tuesday at 01:23 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:23 AM On 9/29/2024 at 9:06 AM, ajd123 said: Can you provide a link to the Sinope product you are suggesting? Is this the product you are suggesting? https://www.sinopetech.com/en/products/sedna-water-leak-detector That’s the one however you need the version which works with C4 so you’d have to work with your dealer to get them for you We’ve done dozens of fridges and freezers with them, zero issues and excellent battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Tuesday at 01:46 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 01:46 AM 20 minutes ago, BXTR said: That’s the one however you need the version which works with C4 so you’d have to work with your dealer to get them for you We’ve done dozens of fridges and freezers with them, zero issues and excellent battery life. Do these water detectors providing temperature and relative humidity readings or just temperature? Interesting that it works in a freezer. Specs say: Temperature ranges: Operating temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C (32 °F to 104 °F) Storage: -20 °C to 50 °C (-4 °F to 122 °F) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted Tuesday at 02:00 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:00 AM 15 minutes ago, ajd123 said: Do these water detectors providing temperature and relative humidity readings or just temperature? Interesting that it works in a freezer. Specs say: Temperature ranges: Operating temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C (32 °F to 104 °F) Storage: -20 °C to 50 °C (-4 °F to 122 °F) The LEAD/PROBE goes in the freezer: the device does not. I wouldn't suggest putting the actual device in. I also suspect you'd get no signal from it, regardless of how strong your mesh is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Tuesday at 02:11 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 02:11 AM 5 minutes ago, Cyknight said: The LEAD/PROBE goes in the freezer: the device does not. I wouldn't suggest putting the actual device in. I also suspect you'd get no signal from it, regardless of how strong your mesh is.... 1) This particular model does not even come with a leader / probe. Even if it did, I would not be OK with the wire being sandwiched between the gasket and fridge/freezer. 2) I currently have an Ambient Weather station set up in all my fridge / freezers. It consists of a base unit (WS-8482) and 6 wireless sensors (TX-3110B). It communicates with the base station via 915mhz frequency and works great from inside my fridges and freezers. Only problem with this setup is I cannot integrate it into Control4. https://www.amazon.ca/WS-8482-X3-7-Channel-Monitoring-Temperature-Compatible/dp/B07CCGNH47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM 14 minutes ago, ajd123 said: 1) This particular model does not even come with a leader / probe. Even if it did, I would not be OK with the wire being sandwiched between the gasket and fridge/freezer. 2) I currently have an Ambient Weather station set up in all my fridge / freezers. It consists of a base unit (WS-8482) and 6 wireless sensors (TX-3110B). It communicates with the base station via 915mhz frequency and works great from inside my fridges and freezers. Only problem with this setup is I cannot integrate it into Control4. https://www.amazon.ca/WS-8482-X3-7-Channel-Monitoring-Temperature-Compatible/dp/B07CCGNH47 I assumed you meant the one with lead (S version) - and a lead, if thin enough shouldn't be an issue at all, and the Z2IO or battery sensor lead is so thin it could be fed THROUGH the seal, which can then be sealed back up with a drop of sealant no problem. And I'm not surprised a long range 900 or so Mhz frequency might penetrate, but zigbee is 2.4Mhz and low power by design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted Tuesday at 04:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:41 PM 14 hours ago, ajd123 said: 2) I currently have an Ambient Weather station set up in all my fridge / freezers. It consists of a base unit (WS-8482) and 6 wireless sensors (TX-3110B). It communicates with the base station via 915mhz frequency and works great from inside my fridges and freezers. Only problem with this setup is I cannot integrate it into Control4. https://www.amazon.ca/WS-8482-X3-7-Channel-Monitoring-Temperature-Compatible/dp/B07CCGNH47 Is there no way to get data from the Ambient Weather API into C4? The Ambient Weather API seems to be published. Perhaps you could use something like the Generic TCP driver to pull a value with a HTTP command? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM 7 hours ago, zaphod said: Is there no way to get data from the Ambient Weather API into C4? The Ambient Weather API seems to be published. Perhaps you could use something like the Generic TCP driver to pull a value with a HTTP command? @msgreenf Is this doable? Currently the Control4 Weather Driver just shows the temperature based on my geographical location. It does not seem to be updating the system with the BASE UNIT or REMOTE SENSOR readings. Is there any way to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:11 AM 17 minutes ago, ajd123 said: @msgreenf Is this doable? Currently the Control4 Weather Driver just shows the temperature based on my geographical location. It does not seem to be updating the system with the BASE UNIT or REMOTE SENSOR readings. Is there any way to fix this? Idk what that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Wednesday at 01:20 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:20 AM 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: Idk what that is... See attached pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted Wednesday at 01:21 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:21 AM I still can't help you. I don't understand your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Wednesday at 01:23 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:23 AM Just now, msgreenf said: I still can't help you. I don't understand your question The driver is showing the temperature for my City based on my postal code. I want it to show the temperature of the actual weather station (WS-8482) and sensors (TX-3110B) placed around my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted Wednesday at 01:25 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:25 AM You need to change it to use weather underground vs just the control4 weather service in the properties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted Wednesday at 01:29 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:29 AM 3 minutes ago, msgreenf said: You need to change it to use weather underground vs just the control4 weather service in the properties Just tried. After I change it to "WU" and click "Set" some new options show up briefly (1/2 second) at the bottom but then it reverts back to Control4 and those additional options disappear. Maybe this can only be done via Composer Pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted Wednesday at 01:30 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:30 AM 1 minute ago, ajd123 said: Just tried. After I change it to "WU" and click "Set" some new options show up briefly (1/2 second) at the bottom but then it reverts back to Control4 and those additional options disappear. Maybe this can only be done via Composer Pro? Nope. Then your weather underground API key isn't valid ajd123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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