Jobu604 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Hi all, what’s my best option for a battery operated temp sensor that integrates with c4? I just want to be able to read temp from my wine cellar and trigger notifications/monitor temp remotely from the c4 app (no need to actually control the wine cooler). I don’t have access to power so it needs to be battery operated. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BY96 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Shelly H&T will monitor temperature and humidity and the Chowmain driver is great. https://www.shelly.com/en-us/products/shop/shelly-h-and-t-white-us?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw7NmzBhBLEiwAxrHQ-UkdYs_KHPHkH-gtEtH0zAUXlwHssi7P7lA9JZGvRRk469DPS-hQ4hoCyMIQAvD_BwE Andrew luecke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Well there is the Control4 battery powered wireless contact sensor that does temp and humidity. Just a general thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (Hoping the Shelly driver gets updated for the new Bluetooth add ons. Stuck the temp sensor in the fridge and links great to their relay.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu604 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 On 6/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Cyknight said: Well there is the Control4 battery powered wireless contact sensor that does temp and humidity. Just a general thought. Just to confirm, is this the one you’re talking about? Thanks! https://www.control4.com/docs/product/wireless-contact-sensor/data-sheet/english/latest//wireless-contact-sensor-data-sheet-rev-a.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Control4 Native https://www.control4.com/docs/product/z2c/data-sheet/english/latest//z2c-data-sheet-rev-a.pdf Axxess within a Motion Detector (if it adds anything for you) https://www.axxind.com/product/wireless-motion-sensor/ Third Party Driver Shelly Uni with a temperature probe if you had an outlet or low voltage available. (probe can be extended to where you do have power to put the Uni) Shelly H&T wifi as mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 44 minutes ago, Jobu604 said: Just to confirm, is this the one you’re talking about? Thanks! https://www.control4.com/docs/product/wireless-contact-sensor/data-sheet/english/latest//wireless-contact-sensor-data-sheet-rev-a.pdf That's an OOOOLD version, the one @RAV put the link up for is the current one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu604 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Thanks both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Is there a similar wireless thermostat you can use for liquid? I would like to be able to monitor my pool temp in C4. But I don't want to have to run a wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, zaphod said: Is there a similar wireless thermostat you can use for liquid? I would like to be able to monitor my pool temp in C4. But I don't want to have to run a wire. I'm not aware of any temp sensor that wouldn't use a probe that can communicate wireless (be it wifi, zigbee or zwave) For hot-tubs we usually just tie a probe to the return line, tweak temp reading and it's fairly accurate, and especially for alerts for too high/low. To be very accurate you'd likely have to plumb it into the line itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Oh to add, for the C4 one, you can wire an external lead (thermistor) for the read out vs it's internal one (or well, you'd get both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, Cyknight said: I'm not aware of any temp sensor that wouldn't use a probe that can communicate wireless (be it wifi, zigbee or zwave) For hot-tubs we usually just tie a probe to the return line, tweak temp reading and it's fairly accurate, and especially for alerts for too high/low. To be very accurate you'd likely have to plumb it into the line itself. So you're saying that any device, including the Shelly linked to, can use an external probe? The Specs area of the Shelly doesn't mention anything about a probe - what kind of probe would you use. I had been trying to use some DS18B20 probes with a Tasmota device for my hot tub, but I haven't got it to work reliably. I would do the same thing for the pool and somehow try to hide the cable. But for some reason the device stops seeing the probe after a while. I was fine with just draping the probe over the tub so that it sits a few inches in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, zaphod said: So you're saying that any device, including the Shelly linked to, can use an external probe? The Specs area of the Shelly doesn't mention anything about a probe - what kind of probe would you use. I had been trying to use some DS18B20 probes with a Tasmota device for my hot tub, but I haven't got it to work reliably. I would do the same thing for the pool and somehow try to hide the cable. But for some reason the device stops seeing the probe after a while. I was fine with just draping the probe over the tub so that it sits a few inches in the water. Shelly Uni or Plus Add On will work with the probe you have. (I use Chowmainsoft driver) As mentioned wrapping against a water line or such works surprisingly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, zaphod said: So you're saying that any device, including the Shelly linked to, can use an external probe? The Specs area of the Shelly doesn't mention anything about a probe - what kind of probe would you use. I had been trying to use some DS18B20 probes with a Tasmota device for my hot tub, but I haven't got it to work reliably. I would do the same thing for the pool and somehow try to hide the cable. But for some reason the device stops seeing the probe after a while. I was fine with just draping the probe over the tub so that it sits a few inches in the water. Well not ANY device, and I can't speak for the shelly as such, but we use the C4 contact sensor for this all the time with zero issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 oh and the probe is just a standard thermistor, basically any standard 10kOhm thermistor will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 If you're using Shelly devices, prioritise Gen3 > Pro/Plus > Gen 1. The price difference isn't much, and Gen 2/3 is a totally different architecture. All 3 use the same driver package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu604 Posted July 12 Author Share Posted July 12 Just circling back on this - if I add a C4 wireless contact sensor here, will I be able to configure so that I can view temp readings via the app/navigator (similar to a thermostat) or will I be more limited to triggering events (such as notifications) based on temp readings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, Jobu604 said: Just circling back on this - if I add a C4 wireless contact sensor here, will I be able to configure so that I can view temp readings via the app/navigator (similar to a thermostat) or will I be more limited to triggering events (such as notifications) based on temp readings? I am late to the game, but I have an Axxess Sensor in one of 2 wine fridges and I can see the temp in the Navigator just like I could see the T-stat temp in my bedroom or kitchen. I believe I have an old Card Access/C4 sensor in my other fridge and it doesn't have temp capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 8 hours ago, Jobu604 said: Just circling back on this - if I add a C4 wireless contact sensor here, will I be able to configure so that I can view temp readings via the app/navigator (similar to a thermostat) or will I be more limited to triggering events (such as notifications) based on temp readings? Yes via the native temperature display driver. The driver allows connecting to any Z2IO or Z2C device driver to display the temperature 3 hours ago, eggzlot said: I believe I have an old Card Access/C4 sensor in my other fridge and it doesn't have temp capabilities The old drivers for card access don't have the ability to link to the temp display driver - not sure if you could ID those with the newer c4 contact sensor driver?, never tried. Axxess uses it's own display driver, and I could swear there used to be a driver ( by @Cinegration ?) that could do axxess and card access as well but it's literally been years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajd123 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 6/22/2024 at 9:22 PM, BY96 said: Shelly H&T will monitor temperature and humidity and the Chowmain driver is great. https://www.shelly.com/en-us/products/shop/shelly-h-and-t-white-us?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw7NmzBhBLEiwAxrHQ-UkdYs_KHPHkH-gtEtH0zAUXlwHssi7P7lA9JZGvRRk469DPS-hQ4hoCyMIQAvD_BwE This. I have a couple of Shelly H&T Gen 3's and they have been working well. https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-h-and-t-gen3-matte-black/sht-g3-w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegration Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/12/2024 at 5:39 PM, Cyknight said: Yes via the native temperature display driver. The driver allows connecting to any Z2IO or Z2C device driver to display the temperature The old drivers for card access don't have the ability to link to the temp display driver - not sure if you could ID those with the newer c4 contact sensor driver?, never tried. Axxess uses it's own display driver, and I could swear there used to be a driver ( by @Cinegration ?) that could do axxess and card access as well but it's literally been years. Our Temperature Agent should be able to do the trick: https://drivercentral.io/platforms/control4-drivers/climate-fan-fireplace/temperature-agent/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double D Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Sinope makes a great C4 battery powered water sensor that does temperature. Native zigbee, free driver in Director. Temperature shows on Navigator. Long battery life with low battery alert available for programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutrmdp Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 This. I have a couple of Shelly H&T Gen 3's and they have been working well. https://www.shelly.com/en/products/shop/shelly-h-and-t-gen3-matte-black/sht-g3-wSame. 9 of them setup around the house. Really great stuff. Been using it to test humidity in bathrooms as a way to proxy that the shower is running to control bathroom exhaust fans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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