jfh Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Anyone have any C4 experience with the 2019 models of Samsung Frame TV? Are the problems with Art mode that existed in previous model drivers solved? Is the Samsung - Art Mode driver required along with the TV driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I have one, no issues with hardwired IP control. Couldn't get the art mode universal driver to work but don't really care. There is a properties tab that tells the tv to turn off or go to art mode at power off. And I have changed that drop-down programmatically based on scheduler because at another company sold one for a bedroom which was a mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Why a mistake for a bedroom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, jfh said: Why a mistake for a bedroom? Also interested in why it’s a mistake. Planning on putting one in master bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Without some programing to make it turn off instead of going into art mode when it is turned off at night it is way too bright. The customer was ready to return it before I was sent out to resolve. The obnoxious part is to change from art mode to off you have to change that field then the tv has to be turned on then off in c4 from my experience. If someone has found a better way please let me know so I know for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, sonic30101 said: Without some programing to make it turn off instead of going into art mode at night it is way too bright. The customer was ready to return it before I was sent out to resolve There’s no brightness control in art mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, jfh said: There’s no brightness control in art mode? Still overpowering when trying to sleep in my opinion. I like it pitch black and so did that customer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 I like total dark when sleeping too but this would be in a guest room/office where the goal is to use the Frame TV to show art most of the day and occasionally use as a TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, sonic30101 said: to change from art mode to off you have to change that field then the tv has to be turned on then off in c4 This is a real eye-opener for me, wow. So do you have to do this gymnastics exercise every time you want to turn the TV off instead of art mode? I was thinking that I could set a timer to control when art mode is active. Like have the thing go to art mode for a few hours after work or on weekends and otherwise keep it off-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We have a Hardwire Controlled Frame TV had no issues with the C4 driver - do not use the Art App. You can set the TV to turn off and back on (Art Work) via motion control on the TV. Had the TV for over 6mths and had to use the Samsung TV Remote about 4 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdo21 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Gary - I thought the UK frame TV models didn’t have IP control yet but it sounds like you have it working in Control4? I was waiting for the 2020 model to come out to see if these worked but perhaps it already does!Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We have our Frame TV on IP Control - Will check the driver when I get back Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 There are reports in the Samsung forums that there are issues with the TV not waking up into Art mode when motion is detected and general issues with motion detection. What has your experience been with the responsiveness of motion detection? I would like the TV to do the work of keeping art mode active rather than having to rely on using C4 programming to put the TV in art mode when triggered by an external motion detector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We had a couple of times the Tv as not woke up - But its rare We had a issue about not be able to select our Photos and had error message 3001 - Samsung came out and just reset the TV This issues as gone away now Its a great TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Ckun Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 No major issues with mine in the dining room hardwired ip control. one and a blue moon. instead of going in to art mode when it seances motion it will turn on to the HDMI input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Sorry if I'm hijacking a bit, but wanted to confirm that the TV will respond as I intend... As an aside I'm looking at this TV, not so much for the art mode, but for the flush mount and sleek look. Since it will be in the bedroom, I doubt we will be using art mode all that much after we get over the initial "look how cool" thrill. For our everyday purposes, we would likely want the TV to be off most of the time. When we do watch the TV, we'll likely be relaxing in bed and using a sleep function that I'd program to fire off a "Room Off" command after [x] minutes. When that command executes I would want the TV to turn off - not go to Art mode. Will this work? Since Art mode is a neat feature, I wouldn't mind programming it to be enabled at various times during the day. Seems like the TV has built-in scheduling options for enabling art mode vs. "off mode". Anyone have any experience with this feature? As an alternative, can I potentially set up a variable that I can tie to scheduler that would toggle Art mode? I'm thinking something like this: Set a scheduler to make the variable "Art Mode Active" true or false at set times; Then program: When variable "Art Mode Active" is true -> turn on art mode. The expectation being in this case, the TV is in art mode and motion detection toggles the display on / off according to the TV parameters. If someone watches TV when this state is active, when they turn the TV off, it goes to art mode. Next: When variable "Art Mode Active" is false -> turn off art mode. Expectation here would be the TV is off. When this state is true and someone watches TV, a room-off command turns the TV off. Let me know if this is doable, either through native TV programming, or through the use of scheduler / variables / other. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, joecheech said: Sorry if I'm hijacking a bit, but wanted to confirm that the TV will respond as I intend... As an aside I'm looking at this TV, not so much for the art mode, but for the flush mount and sleek look. Since it will be in the bedroom, I doubt we will be using art mode all that much after we get over the initial "look how cool" thrill. For our everyday purposes, we would likely want the TV to be off most of the time. When we do watch the TV, we'll likely be relaxing in bed and using a sleep function that I'd program to fire off a "Room Off" command after [X] minutes. When that command executes I would want the TV to turn off - not go to Art mode. Will this work? Since Art mode is a neat feature, I wouldn't mind programming it to be enabled at various times during the day. Seems like the TV has built-in scheduling options for enabling art mode vs. "off mode". Anyone have any experience with this feature? As an alternative, can I potentially set up a variable that I can tie to scheduler that would toggle Art mode? I'm thinking something like this: Set a scheduler to make the variable "Art Mode Active" true or false at set times; Then program: When variable "Art Mode Active" is true -> turn on art mode. The expectation being in this case, the TV is in art mode and motion detection toggles the display on / off according to the TV parameters. If someone watches TV when this state is active, when they turn the TV off, it goes to art mode. Next: When variable "Art Mode Active" is false -> turn off art mode. Expectation here would be the TV is off. When this state is true and someone watches TV, a room-off command turns the TV off. Let me know if this is doable, either through native TV programming, or through the use of scheduler / variables / other. Thanks! yes all is doable, most people that frequent the forum are much more educated as far as the nuances of automation. If you will mostly just be treating it as a regular tv it will be fine, you can also use custom buttons/experience buttons to run a macro to change the property then turn the tv on then back off to switch back and forth it is just no where as easy as most expect. More programing than I anticipated though not a lot. Just be aware that there are some minor quirks and if in artmode when it is time to go to bed you probably will not be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thanks very much. Seems aggravating. Wonder if I can stick an IR bud on there for just this task. Please tell me the IR eye is on the one connect box so that I can at least tuck that out of site in the enormous Strong Box that I’ll have to put in the wall behind the TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, joecheech said: Thanks very much. Seems aggravating. Wonder if I can stick an IR bud on there for just this task. Please tell me the IR eye is on the one connect box so that I can at least tuck that out of site in the enormous Strong Box that I’ll have to put in the wall behind the TV. Why use IR when there is IP control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Would use IP control for most functions and set up the IR to send a signal that emulates holding down the off button on the Samsung remote in order to avoid having to turn the thing off, then on, then off again as Sonic mentioned. Not even sure that would work, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 No sure the factory remote is not IR for most functions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 The Ir is on the TV not the Connect Box - That`s had our dealer set it up The IP driver is UN65LS03N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecheech Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Gary Leeds UK said: The Ir is on the TV not the Connect Box - That`s had our dealer set it up Thank you, Gary. Are you saying your dealer set up the IP for most controls and the IR to toggle art mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 No he set up the IR thinking you could not control by IP - Did a call out on the this forum and was sent a IP driver for him to use Si its all controlled by IP now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 You just need to install the art mode menu driver and bind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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