WhyPhy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The existing Neeo doesn’t have a mic and there is no microphone button shown. Having a dedicated mic button is the only way to realistically do voice on a remote. https://support.neeo.com/hc/en-us/articles/203851862-Does-NEEO-include-a-microphone-for-voice-control- msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 LOL I love all the psychics on this thread that had pre-visions of what the remote will look like and how it will function without a microphone. Let's keep it on the level here, everything in this post is pure conjecture. The images of the new "C4" remote are just old images of the Neeo prototype that any Google search will produce. In short, you'll know more when they publicly announce it. Anything anyone has to say before then is frankly, bullshit. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 True but images don't lie and aren't normally removed ... We shall see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gene said: True but images don't lie and aren't normally removed ... We shall see... So you missed the part where those images have been available for years before the Control4 purchase was even announced? Like I said, everyone is basing their theories over old pictures. And guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 And if it looks like the old Neeo....I still stand by WHY? Want a touchscreen, use a phone. Want buttons? Don't use the Neeo.... EverAction, LollerAgent and msgreenf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cyknight said: And if it looks like the old Neeo....I still stand by WHY? Want a touchscreen, use a phone. Want buttons? Don't use the Neeo.... The only true appeal is aesthetics. After that if it's what was previously shown a SR 260 is superior. I could see maybe someone using it in an area they would have put a touchscreen but didn't want to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, Cyknight said: And if it looks like the old Neeo....I still stand by WHY? Want a touchscreen, use a phone. Want buttons? Don't use the Neeo.... my preference would be for hard buttons for heavy use tasks such as channel and volume up/down, etc. haptic feedback for some other buttons on a touch screen would be really nice for things like shortcuts. To me its that black/yellow/green whatever box on the top of the SR250 and SR260 - it looks like a DOS program from the 80s. Functional yes but when you look at what other companies are rolling out it is 2-3 iterations behind design wise. You can argue it and I am sure you will, but from a design standpoint its 15+ years old. I had Harmony remotes prior to C4 from 2010-2014 which had a better button lay out and some color screens with buttons on the side (yes real buttons) well before I got my first SR250. I'd take a color screen even if its not a touch screen. The ability to change what goes on that color screen would be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 DVR is my most used remote button. Followed by d pad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 DVR is my most used remote button. Followed by d pad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, eggzlot said: my preference would be for hard buttons for heavy use tasks such as channel and volume up/down, etc. haptic feedback for some other buttons on a touch screen would be really nice for things like shortcuts. To me its that black/yellow/green whatever box on the top of the SR250 and SR260 - it looks like a DOS program from the 80s. Functional yes but when you look at what other companies are rolling out it is 2-3 iterations behind design wise. You can argue it and I am sure you will, but from a design standpoint its 15+ years old. I had Harmony remotes prior to C4 from 2010-2014 which had a better button lay out and some color screens with buttons on the side (yes real buttons) well before I got my first SR250. I'd take a color screen even if its not a touch screen. The ability to change what goes on that color screen would be fantastic. I Agree! So true! I had to laugh at the DOS comment...Good one! Atleast its orange not green! HA! Hopefully they will come up with something people will want! (Crestron, etc... all redo and produce new products people buy even if they are simple but with a different spin/innovative idea...hopefully C4 will do the same now that SnapAV is in charge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Gene said: I Agree! So true! I had to laugh at the DOS comment...Good one! Atleast its orange not green! HA! Hopefully they will come up with something people will want! (Crestron, etc... all redo and produce new products people buy even if they are simple but with a different spin/innovative idea...hopefully C4 will do the same now that SnapAV is in charge). You could make it green. Or Blue, or Purple, Or.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Cyknight said: You could make it green. Or Blue, or Purple, Or.... a rose by any other color would be just as ugly and outdated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, eggzlot said: a rose by any other color would be just as ugly and outdated Are you calling roses outdated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, eggzlot said: Functional yes but when you look at what other companies are rolling out it is 2-3 iterations behind design wise I don't completely disagree. But then again, that also means you haven't had to buy 2-3 devices since then to keep them working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 and you ready to pay 3-4x a remote vs todays prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 For my dedicated theater, yes I’ll buy this new remote if it works and integrates well. Better for getting feedback to the screen in a darkened room. I’ll keep the SR-260 for living room channel surfing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWD Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 What C4 really needs to change is the pre-configured remotes. I understand it keeps things easy and the same across remotes, I just wish there was more customization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 What C4 really needs to change is the pre-configured remotes. I understand it keeps things easy and the same across remotes, I just wish there was more customization. You mean proxies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, msgreenf said: and you ready to pay 3-4x a remote vs todays prices? do what Crestron does - offer 2 remotes. Fancy and non Fancy. Those that want color and touchscreens and customizations will be looking at $800-$1000 but I am fairly sure C4 can offer something more elegant than the 260 for $300-$400. LollerAgent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWD Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, msgreenf said: 4 minutes ago, KWD said: What C4 really needs to change is the pre-configured remotes. I understand it keeps things easy and the same across remotes, I just wish there was more customization. You mean proxies? Proxies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, Cyknight said: Are you calling roses outdated? Ask Mr Shakespeare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, KWD said: Proxies? Proxies are the interfaces - note remotes. Proxies are how devices map commands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWD Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Proxies are the interfaces - note remotes. Proxies are how devices map commands. So yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, KWD said: So yes. that is the entire foundation of control4, I don't see them going away but they are always evolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWD Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, msgreenf said: that is the entire foundation of control4, I don't see them going away but they are always evolving. Maybe they could make it a little more flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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