Nehsmit Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hii All, Have an HC800 which seems to be crashing so upgrading to an EA-5. From your experience, any reason not to upgrade to an EA and stick with an 800? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Nope, it is definitely worth the time and money to upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 because you can't afford it? msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 CEDIA is around the corner. I’d wait to see if they release new hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Nehsmit said: Hii All, Have an HC800 which seems to be crashing so upgrading to an EA-5. From your experience, any reason not to upgrade to an EA and stick with an 800? Thanks in advance I would look at why your HC800 is crashing. Migrating to a newer controller won't solve the problem if your project has problems. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 We have a HC800 and are waiting to see when the new controllers will be coming out. Hopefully within the next 6 mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehsmit Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 hours ago, alanchow said: I would look at why your HC800 is crashing. Migrating to a newer controller won't solve the problem if your project has problems. We had a series of power outages back to back and after one of them it does not reconnect the system. My dealer spent hours copying most recent backup, resetting 800 and reinstalling. Worked fine for a day but next day with a random power outage, same problem. Any ideas would be appreciated. And no we don't have power issues regularly. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehsmit Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 hours ago, eggzlot said: CEDIA is around the corner. I’d wait to see if they release new hardware. Do you all think EA-5 will be upgraded? Since system crashing I'm stuck in that I can't wait 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I would first look into getting a UPS for controller.I live in power failure country and wouldn't plug mine in without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Imho the thing is just fried from power issues and running for years. Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehsmit Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, prabeau said: I would first look into getting a UPS for controller.I live in power failure country and wouldn't plug mine in without. Unfortunately I Have a ups but with all the other equipment it wasn't plugged in. It is now. I do think it's fried as well though with reinstall from scratch worked. Just with power outage went again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Nehsmit said: Do you all think EA-5 will be upgraded? Since system crashing I'm stuck in that I can't wait 6 months. i have zero insider knowledge. But if you look at the release cycles from the previous controller to the HC800/HC250 and then from those to the new EA controllers, it would not be shocking to see some new hardware. If there is something new that either knocks the price down of used EA1/3/5 or gives you the chance to get the latest and greatest. Usually when they announce hardware its ready to ship and CEDIA is in Sept. But who knows, all just speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 hours ago, eggzlot said: i have zero insider knowledge. But if you look at the release cycles from the previous controller to the HC800/HC250 and then from those to the new EA controllers, it would not be shocking to see some new hardware. If there is something new that either knocks the price down of used EA1/3/5 or gives you the chance to get the latest and greatest. Usually when they announce hardware its ready to ship and CEDIA is in Sept. But who knows, all just speculation. keep in mind though the EA series got a refresh last year i think with the introduction of POE EA1 and v2 versions of all of the rest. so likely they will be here for a 2-4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 The EA can output 720p only at the moment ~ so way out of date eggzlot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said: keep in mind though the EA series got a refresh last year i think with the introduction of POE EA1 and v2 versions of all of the rest. so likely they will be here for a 2-4 years. who knows, differences are so slight between v1 and v2; I'd think an EA6 would be a major step up and maybe it is a year off - who knows. If you can wait ~5 weeks I'd wait that is all I suggested. No crystal ball here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Gary Leeds UK said: The EA can output 720p only at the moment ~ so way out of date Incorrect. It only accepts an incoming IP cam feed of 720P because it inlays it into a 1080p interface. It 100% outputs 1080p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 So why can not we show 1080 camera streams on the EA controllers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Because Control4 didn't design it that way. I couldn't give you an official reason why. My thoughts are that a 1080p stream is at least twice the data of a 720p stream. The camera is also inlaid (not really full screen) in the UI and also encoded in the controller for mobile viewing. Considering you're not going to get the full 1080p resolution anyways (because it's inlaid), processing the extra data takes away processing from the rest of the system (and also the extra overhead for mobile viewing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 So its out of Date and a new controller will be coming out which will allow 1080p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Idk why you assume that. But ok. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I assume that because Snap AV need to sell product and nothing new as come out for a few years The 0S3 is a stepping stone to new hardware and part of that would be updating Controllers so customer Can see 1080p Camera streams on there TV. Like to see the new Neeo Remote, wonder if that as voice control ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 That's a lot of speculation. It's safer to not expect change than to hope and be burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Speculation is Fun - But will not get Burned, just have nothing to buy. Started buying Watches again - So my Wife is not best pleased !!! RobbieF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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