C4 Fan Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'm considering updating my DirecTV system from DVRs to the new HS-17 (Genie 2) with the C61K clients. Does anyone know if new drivers are required or would the drivers for the DirecTV HR54 likely work? My current DVRs are connected via IR bugs. HC-800 controller. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 the hs17 is a server it does not have a video output so you would be controlling the minis like normal. mini's however do not have power control and i believe the new server allows 7 at a time so you will need to turn them on and off with ir if you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 2:51 PM, Matt Lowe said: the hs17 is a server it does not have a video output so you would be controlling the minis like normal. mini's however do not have power control and i believe the new server allows 7 at a time so you will need to turn them on and off with ir if you need it. when i had Directv, i thought i just leaved the mini clients on all the time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 5:55 PM, ejn1 said: when i had Directv, i thought i just leaved the mini clients on all the time.... you can do this but the Genie servers have a limit of how many clients can be active at one time. If you have more clients then the genie can handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 This HS17 is the most bizarre thing. Looks like a giant modem, not rack mountable, no local video support, only 7 tuners. Reported a 25% speed boos to the clients which is nice. Can not be paired with any other dvr and only one on the account total. So more like an in-and-out for the ATT techs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 11 hours ago, thecodeman said: This HS17 is the most bizarre thing. Looks like a giant modem, not rack mountable, no local video support, only 7 tuners. Reported a 25% speed boos to the clients which is nice. Can not be paired with any other dvr and only one on the account total. So more like an in-and-out for the ATT techs. I thought same thing but I guess it saves the space in one location which can now use the client instead of main unit... I switched to the DISH Hopper from Directv but left my Directv Dish up so i can go back and forth in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, ejn1 said: I thought same thing but I guess it saves the space in one location which can now use the client instead of main unit... I switched to the DISH Hopper from Directv but left my Directv Dish up so i can go back and forth in the future. I recently switched to Dish as well at my own home, and I love the hopper 3. ejn1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shad0whands Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Does the driver support DirecTV DVR program access? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Also, the HS17 is completely wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 12 hours ago, rolldog said: Also, the HS17 is completely wireless. Not true. The HS17 has an Ethernet port of it's own for wired LAN. The C61 4K client boxes use coax. RVU TVs use Coax - Deca - Ehternet Port (you do not appear to be able to do RVU TVs with your own network switch and category cabling, which you could get away with prior Genie) And yes, IP address and Room Name gets you control of clients using existing drivers, with the power off exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 5:11 PM, shad0whands said: Does the driver support DirecTV DVR program access? No, however the Dish Network Hopper 3 MSP (media services proxy) does. I can view recordings for example on my DVR and select a show directly. Does not push the guide data though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 hours ago, RAV said: Not true. The HS17 has an Ethernet port of it's own for wired LAN. The C61 4K client boxes use coax. RVU TVs use Coax - Deca - Ehternet Port (you do not appear to be able to do RVU TVs with your own network switch and category cabling, which you could get away with prior Genie) And yes, IP address and Room Name gets you control of clients using existing drivers, with the power off exclusion. Oh, I spoke with DIRECTV yesterday about upgrading to the HS17, and whoever I spoke with told me that it was completely wireless. Just another example of poor customer support or she might have meant wireless as in no HDMI cable. I was wondering how they expect a 25% increase in speed while going from a hard wired connection to wireless. Oh well, at least you just answered my question about it working with my current system. She said they send a mini receiver with it when it's ordered. Regarding the limitations of power control, I have all my receivers connected to a Wattbox, which is an IP controlled surge protector/line conditioner. This can power off the clients so you don't get a message about having too many receivers online. Every TV in my house is 4K HDR. I never had a problem with having too many 4K video streams since DIRECTV only has one 4K channel, but I used to get a message about having too many receivers online. I have 2 receivers that are local, and the others are connected to my matrix. My current Genie, the HR54, isn't even used with a TV. I have it connected to a monitor so I can access the menu settings, but swapping it out for this new one would be ideal now that I know it can be hard wired to the network. Hopefully they've fixed the problem with my clients constantly going offline. At least once a week, I need to go through the internet settings on the HR54, select advanced, then wired before my clients show that they're back online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 11/13/2017 at 7:44 AM, RAV said: Not true. The HS17 has an Ethernet port of it's own for wired LAN. The C61 4K client boxes use coax. RVU TVs use Coax - Deca - Ehternet Port (you do not appear to be able to do RVU TVs with your own network switch and category cabling, which you could get away with prior Genie) And yes, IP address and Room Name gets you control of clients using existing drivers, with the power off exclusion. I realize this post is old, but hopefully someone can respond because I'm having issues with DIRECTV. RAV - You mentioned here that the DIRECTV clients can use IP control. When I switched to the Genie 2, I had to have all the clients changed to IR control since the clients connected to the Genie 2 do not have their own IP address. It's very odd because sometimes they do, but most of the time they have a link local IP address, which is how they communicate with the Genie 2. Are you saying that it's possible to use IP control for the clients on a Genie 2 system? IR repeaters had to be setup on all of my clients, and one of my clients just stopped responding to IR repeater. It's been working fine for months, but about 2 weeks ago, one of my clients completely stopped responding to the IR repeater. It still responds to the IR remote control, just not the IR repeater. I need to either switch back to the HR54, where they can all be setup for IP control or I need to switch to Dish or some other provider. If you have a Genie 2 and are able to control the clients using IP control, please let me know how this works. I would greatly appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Roll Dog, For client IP Control - use the IP address of the Genie 2 (make a router reservation, DirecTVs are known to be forgetful of static settings) and input the EXACT room name of the client box. Caveats - no IP power control of clients, and no client side 'setup menu' navigation, for that you would still need IR. rolldog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Awesome, I'll give this a shot. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 4:03 PM, rolldog said: I realize this post is old, but hopefully someone can respond because I'm having issues with DIRECTV. RAV - You mentioned here that the DIRECTV clients can use IP control. When I switched to the Genie 2, I had to have all the clients changed to IR control since the clients connected to the Genie 2 do not have their own IP address. It's very odd because sometimes they do, but most of the time they have a link local IP address, which is how they communicate with the Genie 2. Are you saying that it's possible to use IP control for the clients on a Genie 2 system? IR repeaters had to be setup on all of my clients, and one of my clients just stopped responding to IR repeater. It's been working fine for months, but about 2 weeks ago, one of my clients completely stopped responding to the IR repeater. It still responds to the IR remote control, just not the IR repeater. I need to either switch back to the HR54, where they can all be setup for IP control or I need to switch to Dish or some other provider. If you have a Genie 2 and are able to control the clients using IP control, please let me know how this works. I would greatly appreciate it. I would switch to Dish, it's night and day. But a disclaimer, I have it at my house and also am a Dish Concierge installer and have switched about 10-12 accounts from DTV in the last 8 months. DTV has gone downhill since AT&T bought them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 If I were to switch to Dish, what do I do with all my DIRECTV equipment? Is there a second market for these things or do I just eat the loss and have to buy new equipment for Dish? I've been considering cutting the cord, but there aren't any providers that offer 4K and/or HDR service. Granted, DIRECTV doesn't have much, but I feel like I would get a better picture and better sound quality using a provider instead of everyone casting to their TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livitup Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 5:47 PM, RAV said: Roll Dog, For client IP Control - use the IP address of the Genie 2 (make a router reservation, DirecTVs are known to be forgetful of static settings) and input the EXACT room name of the client box. Caveats - no IP power control of clients, and no client side 'setup menu' navigation, for that you would still need IR. @rolldog I have this exact setup in my home and it works perfectly. Let me know if you can't get it to work and I can post a screen shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yes, that would be very helpful. Everything is still setup to use IR control with the Genie 2. I miss the functionality of IP control and seeing the name of the media currently playing in each room at the bottom of the navigator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livitup Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 12 hours ago, rolldog said: Yes, that would be very helpful. Everything is still setup to use IR control with the Genie 2. I miss the functionality of IP control and seeing the name of the media currently playing in each room at the bottom of the navigator. Here ya go. I have the 4K Genie and 3 mini receivers. You don't need a driver at all for the Genie, only the minis. You should have one copy of the driver installed per mini. The IP address entered in the driver is the Genie - it should be the same IP address for all the copies of the driver. The magic is in the 'Location Name' field. This has to match what you have set up with DirecTV. You can view/change the location names on the DirecTV website. I just have mine called '1' '2' and '3' because they are all in my rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thank you very much! I'll give this a shot. Do you have trouble accessing the menu settings of each mini, like the video and audio settings? I remember before getting the Genie 2 and they were all setup for IP control, every time I tried to access the menu settings, it would lock up. For some reason, even now, I can't select Dolby Digital in the audio settings. It defaults to the regular audio. I can select Dolby Audio, but for some reason I can't even access Dolby Digital even though it's supported in every location. I have every mini set for 4K HDR, but I can't even select Dolby Digital, unless it defaults to that automatically if once 4K HDR is selected. Thanks again for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livitup Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I’ve not noticed any problems (beyond the usual DirecTV sucks problems). The only limitation I’m aware of is that you can’t power a mini on via IP (not C4’s fault - the mini doesn’t support it). That’s why there’s the option for disabling power off in the driver. You’ll need to manually power them back on after a power failure, I suspect, but other than that they’ve worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolldog Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yes, I can relate with the whole DIRECTV sucks thing, but switching to Dish seems like an expensive headache. Plus, I won't get a discount on my AT&T cell phone bill anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooner2k1 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 8/12/2018 at 1:07 PM, livitup said: Here ya go. I have the 4K Genie and 3 mini receivers. You don't need a driver at all for the Genie, only the minis. You should have one copy of the driver installed per mini. The IP address entered in the driver is the Genie - it should be the same IP address for all the copies of the driver. The magic is in the 'Location Name' field. This has to match what you have set up with DirecTV. You can view/change the location names on the DirecTV website. I just have mine called '1' '2' and '3' because they are all in my rack. Is there a version 5 of the DirectTV IP driver? I'm on version 3 and can only find version 3 available. I'm having intermittent disconnect issues where the logging shows the connection is good, but it times out. Hoping that maybe a new or different version might address it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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