urbanmark Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Wow... really interesting new product launching Oct 30th and available at Apple Stores.http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2012/10/29/meet-philips-hue-the-smart-led-light-bulb-exclusively-hitting-apple-stores-on-october-30/Philips website: http://www.meethue.com/en-US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It uses an open form of zigbee too I read. So you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 These are very cool and an API is available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Question will be if the ZigBee will work directly with Control4, being open is not a guarantee.On top of that, a bulb is more likely to go than a dimmer or switch - and that means more (re)identifying.Unless a 3rd party module allows control over lights assigned to number 1-2-3 etc, but that defeats any advatage of being ZigBee themslves.In the end, these do nothing C4 lighting can't do for you to begin with.This might become much more interesting to work into C4 if they allow actual colour changing...It's a neat option for DIY outside of C4 regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 They do allow color changing! They come with 4 standard modes but can be changed to any color. You can download a picture to the Phillips online portal and pick any color from the photo and the bulbs will change instantly. These do more then a C4 dimmer. You can control each light individually can't do that with a C4 dimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazykroc Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Are they available in 240V or are they just for the US market ?I couldn't find a specs page on their websiteKroc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 At this time I believe its a US only release...API and SDK are indeed available, or will be shortly, for this product. I find this to be an very exciting product, can't wait to get my hands on a few to test out. If you haven't seen their website - http://www.meethue.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 thats bad ass!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 They do allow color changing! These do more then a C4 dimmer. You can control each light individually can't do that with a C4 dimmer.Must have missed the color change, thought it was just intensity.Good point on the individual light control. I'll look into the API, but it's still questionable if it'll integrate direct using ZigBee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I would imagine the initial integration would be through the gateway, which makes it an IP controllable solution.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Philips Hue uses the "Zigbee Light Link" standard: http://www.zigbee.org/Standards/ZigBeeLightLink/Overview.aspxAccording to the ZigBee Alliance: "Since ZigBee Light Link is a ZigBee standard, lighting products will interoperate *effortlessly* with products using other ZigBee standards already in consumers' homes, including ZigBee Home Automation, ZigBee Input Device, ZigBee Remote Control and ZigBee Health Care".So, any thoughts on how our C4 Zigbee systems conform to these standards or what needs to happen to "hook 'em up". Would love to integrate this product *effortlessly* ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I doubt they will just "identify" in composer, like ryan said, my guess is some sort of gateway device will be needed to manage them.However, if sddp works right, who knows maybe they will just show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 We all like effortless - unfortunately using a generically compatible standard isn't the end all of it.Can C4's receivers (be they controllers, CA extenders of lighting devices) receive the lamp's signals and vice versa?They don't always do so - international in-line dimmers and Mechoshade Blinds are just two recent examples.Then there still has to be driver built to make this all happen.That said, I'm not saying it isn't going to happen or that it will take long - just that it's hard to tell yet. I'm picking some up as soon as I trace some down and see what I can figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Cool... I'm ready to buy a driver when it's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Anyone bought these yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Just bought the last one available at my local Apple Store. It's very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Interesting, how do they work, looks like there is a wifi to zigbee bridge device that needs to be in the room? Wonder if this has a public interface? If so, wonder how far off a c4 driver will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSquared Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 As interesting as these sound there is a problem with controlling a bulb and not a switch. If the bulbs are turned off and you don't have your idevice handy you can't turn them back on. I'm thinking that I would use them in locations where there is other lighting and probably as a seasonal/party thing that I don't fiddle with all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 You would likely *remove* the dimmer going to these bulbs, and replace it with a Control4 2/3/6-button keypad.You could then control the light with the keypad, and have the fixture wired straight through to power.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 As interesting as these sound there is a problem with controlling a bulb and not a switch. If the bulbs are turned off and you don't have your idevice handy you can't turn them back on.I just tested this and there's an easy way around it. If the bulb is turned off and you don't have your idevice, you just turn the power off at the switch, the bulb automatically resets to defaults and you can turn it back on at the switch like a regular bulb. No idevice required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 So if I have 8 bulbs in a room, if I pull the power, they all reset when I turn the power back on? What happens if they are on a dimmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 According to the instructions, "The bulb is not suitable for use with dimmers". Dimming would happen through the App... or hopefully, some future C4 integration with 2/3/6 keypad (as RyanE suggested). Hoping C4 integration will be relatively easy... this guy has already hacked hue to work with a DMX controller: http://rsmck.co.uk/hue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 i am buying a kit today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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